ここっちゃこっちゃ1(as for (that)) thing; (given (that)) thing; matter; factexpressions (phrases, clauses, etc.)from ことでは2(it is a ...) thing; matter; factexpressions (phrases, clauses, etc.)from ことじゃ, equiv. to ことだKansai-ben札へ残す語をコピー